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	<title>Comments on: Are blogger fam trips a good idea or are they Jurassic PR?</title>
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		<title>By: Sheila Scarborough</title>
		<link>http://nofearwebguide.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/are-blogger-fam-trips-a-good-idea-or-are-they-jurassic-pr/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Scarborough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but you can look at yourself in the mirror every day - the only point of reference needed, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but you can look at yourself in the mirror every day &#8211; the only point of reference needed, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Bordessa</title>
		<link>http://nofearwebguide.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/are-blogger-fam-trips-a-good-idea-or-are-they-jurassic-pr/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Bordessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion. As I&quot;m coming in late, much has been covered, but I wanted to share that I&#039;ve also been TOO honest with some of my editors. I visited several spots for a story for a major American company with tickets comped (not an entire fam trip, but many expenses were covered). I was disappointed with one place and told my editor so, and left it out of my story. She chose to ignore my firsthand experience and write a review herself to include in the piece, simply because she felt it should be included. Happily, this piece does not carry my byline. 

So, while in that particular case the comps weren&#039;t disclosed, I chose to use my own journalistic integrity and NOT include a destination, only to have that integrity shot down by the higher ups. Sometimes people don&#039;t want to hear the truth, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion. As I&#8221;m coming in late, much has been covered, but I wanted to share that I&#8217;ve also been TOO honest with some of my editors. I visited several spots for a story for a major American company with tickets comped (not an entire fam trip, but many expenses were covered). I was disappointed with one place and told my editor so, and left it out of my story. She chose to ignore my firsthand experience and write a review herself to include in the piece, simply because she felt it should be included. Happily, this piece does not carry my byline. </p>
<p>So, while in that particular case the comps weren&#8217;t disclosed, I chose to use my own journalistic integrity and NOT include a destination, only to have that integrity shot down by the higher ups. Sometimes people don&#8217;t want to hear the truth, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Lessons from a Press Trip that Did Not Happen &#124; nerd's eye view</title>
		<link>http://nofearwebguide.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/are-blogger-fam-trips-a-good-idea-or-are-they-jurassic-pr/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Lessons from a Press Trip that Did Not Happen &#124; nerd's eye view</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] People will take pot-shots at you if you accept the terms of writing in exchange for travel. Let them. It&#8217;s your call, pal. There&#8217;s a lot of contention about bloggers and press trips and you&#8217;re going to have to find your own way. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] People will take pot-shots at you if you accept the terms of writing in exchange for travel. Let them. It&#8217;s your call, pal. There&#8217;s a lot of contention about bloggers and press trips and you&#8217;re going to have to find your own way. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Social Networking Tips : Buzz Networker - Social Networking Tips and News for Your Business, Product or Yourself</title>
		<link>http://nofearwebguide.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/are-blogger-fam-trips-a-good-idea-or-are-they-jurassic-pr/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Carnival of Social Networking Tips : Buzz Networker - Social Networking Tips and News for Your Business, Product or Yourself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scarborough presents Are blogger fam trips a good idea or are they Jurassic PR? posted at Sheila Guides You to the Good Stuff, saying, &#8220;When bloggers are invited on fam [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sheila Scarborough</title>
		<link>http://nofearwebguide.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/are-blogger-fam-trips-a-good-idea-or-are-they-jurassic-pr/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Scarborough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

Anytime you question how things are done or suggest changes, you&#039;re breaking someone&#039;s rice bowl, and so I doubt the press trip/fam tour concept is going away any time soon. For a number of people on a number of different levels, it works, just not for me.

A tailored trip is much more useful, but still begs ethics questions. It&#039;s a tough call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Anytime you question how things are done or suggest changes, you&#8217;re breaking someone&#8217;s rice bowl, and so I doubt the press trip/fam tour concept is going away any time soon. For a number of people on a number of different levels, it works, just not for me.</p>
<p>A tailored trip is much more useful, but still begs ethics questions. It&#8217;s a tough call.</p>
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		<title>By: David Whitley</title>
		<link>http://nofearwebguide.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/are-blogger-fam-trips-a-good-idea-or-are-they-jurassic-pr/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>David Whitley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating piece Sheila. To me it&#039;s not really about whether bloggers should go on the fam trips, but whether the people hosting the fam trips properly tailor the trips to the participants.

Part of the reason that I&#039;m very reluctant to go on fam trips is that they&#039;re often organised just to prove to the members of the tourist board and the local media that the PR people are actually doing something. They just want to be able to say &quot;we had writers from publications X and Y out here&quot;. 

It&#039;s far better when the trip is tailored to getting as much coverage as possible - and good coverage at that. If they decide to target bloggers, they need to ask what the bloggers want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating piece Sheila. To me it&#8217;s not really about whether bloggers should go on the fam trips, but whether the people hosting the fam trips properly tailor the trips to the participants.</p>
<p>Part of the reason that I&#8217;m very reluctant to go on fam trips is that they&#8217;re often organised just to prove to the members of the tourist board and the local media that the PR people are actually doing something. They just want to be able to say &#8220;we had writers from publications X and Y out here&#8221;. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s far better when the trip is tailored to getting as much coverage as possible &#8211; and good coverage at that. If they decide to target bloggers, they need to ask what the bloggers want.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwitravelwriter</title>
		<link>http://nofearwebguide.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/are-blogger-fam-trips-a-good-idea-or-are-they-jurassic-pr/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>kiwitravelwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Metalchick Yes, authenticity is essential - and one of the difficulties with famils is the whole trip is contrived and mostly they are about things the host wants pushed, not what i would do, visit, eat etc in a particular place.

there is also a difference in blogging and in the print media and hopefully readers can see that ... often the blogs seem to be advertorial with links to many places.

I like to tell a story - not where I ate, where I stayed, what I bought etc. see my webpages and blogs for tips on travel writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Metalchick Yes, authenticity is essential &#8211; and one of the difficulties with famils is the whole trip is contrived and mostly they are about things the host wants pushed, not what i would do, visit, eat etc in a particular place.</p>
<p>there is also a difference in blogging and in the print media and hopefully readers can see that &#8230; often the blogs seem to be advertorial with links to many places.</p>
<p>I like to tell a story &#8211; not where I ate, where I stayed, what I bought etc. see my webpages and blogs for tips on travel writing.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwitravelwriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiwitravelwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think its unfair to readers for them not to know when you ( we) have been given &#039;free travel stuff&#039;. they need the opportunity to piece as much, or as little, weight as they like to the piece.

All it requires is a statement/sentence at the end of the piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think its unfair to readers for them not to know when you ( we) have been given &#8216;free travel stuff&#8217;. they need the opportunity to piece as much, or as little, weight as they like to the piece.</p>
<p>All it requires is a statement/sentence at the end of the piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think it&#039;s easy for me, too.

I think impartiality is easy for me because over the years, I&#039;ve gotten perks and discounts coming my way just because of being a Flight Attendant.  So some of the perks that bloggers may recently be experiencing are part of what I&#039;ve always had as a result of my day job.

I discover lots of things on my layovers, sometimes in cities that I might never have gone to but for a layover.  While I may not disclose that I was on a layover (security issues), and am prohibited from disclosing some other travel discounts that I receive because of my job, I&#039;ve never thought that compromised my opinions or impartiality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think it&#8217;s easy for me, too.</p>
<p>I think impartiality is easy for me because over the years, I&#8217;ve gotten perks and discounts coming my way just because of being a Flight Attendant.  So some of the perks that bloggers may recently be experiencing are part of what I&#8217;ve always had as a result of my day job.</p>
<p>I discover lots of things on my layovers, sometimes in cities that I might never have gone to but for a layover.  While I may not disclose that I was on a layover (security issues), and am prohibited from disclosing some other travel discounts that I receive because of my job, I&#8217;ve never thought that compromised my opinions or impartiality.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Scarborough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila Scarborough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mary Jo,

To me, it IS fairly simple - accept or decline fam trips, but know what they entail, know what the agendas are, and disclose, disclose.  Just because I am personally skeptical of my own ability to be impartial on fams doesn&#039;t mean that others don&#039;t feel just as strongly that they are capable of impartiality.

The issue for me is not that I won&#039;t say negative things - what I find is that I self-censor and don&#039;t say anything at all about things that bother me on a fam.  That&#039;s what I hate when I feel myself doing it, and that&#039;s why I want to avoid fams if possible in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mary Jo,</p>
<p>To me, it IS fairly simple &#8211; accept or decline fam trips, but know what they entail, know what the agendas are, and disclose, disclose.  Just because I am personally skeptical of my own ability to be impartial on fams doesn&#8217;t mean that others don&#8217;t feel just as strongly that they are capable of impartiality.</p>
<p>The issue for me is not that I won&#8217;t say negative things &#8211; what I find is that I self-censor and don&#8217;t say anything at all about things that bother me on a fam.  That&#8217;s what I hate when I feel myself doing it, and that&#8217;s why I want to avoid fams if possible in the future.</p>
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